Destruction of Gulf of Mexico

[jeffbert]

As I understand it, this rig is in mile deep water, not because that is the only place the oil is, but because of govt. regulations. As the depth of the water increases, so also increase complications, and the risk of leaks.

I realize this thread has already become political, but as nobody has yet complained, I will make this statement:

Oil is and will continue to be a primary source of energy for many years, despite the newer technologies, because they are all immature at best, and impractical at this time. The US has plenty of oil, but the Govt. has placed it off limits. I have heard that the Arabs think that we are simply saving our own oil & using theirs until it is gone. They, given their culture, do not appreciate the political reasons why we have become so dependant upon foreign oil.

As much as I would prefer so-called green energy, even it has its drawbacks, which adherants usually disregard.

[AprilSeven]

As I understand it, this rig is in mile deep water, not because that is the only place the oil is, but because of govt. regulations. As the depth of the water increases, so also increase complications, and the risk of leaks.

I realize this thread has already become political, but as nobody has yet complained, I will make this statement:

Oil is and will continue to be a primary source of energy for many years, despite the newer technologies, because they are all immature at best, and impractical at this time. The US has plenty of oil, but the Govt. has placed it off limits. I have heard that the Arabs think that we are simply saving our own oil & using theirs until it is gone. They, given their culture, do not appreciate the political reasons why we have become so dependant upon foreign oil.

As much as I would prefer so-called green energy, even it has its drawbacks, which adherants usually disregard.

I've heard the same thing (we're saving our reserves, and using up "theirs")

Will be interesting to see what happens once China gets into the oil business! Something tells me the technology could shift radically into new directions if it had to. That's not to say it would be fair or available to most people -- but if things get really dicey, I'd anticipate a spate of lightning-fast "development" in alternative fuel resources/utilization.

[cybotron]

As I understand it, this rig is in mile deep water, not because that is the only place the oil is, but because of govt. regulations. As the depth of the water increases, so also increase complications, and the risk of leaks.

I realize this thread has already become political, but as nobody has yet complained, I will make this statement:

Oil is and will continue to be a primary source of energy for many years, despite the newer technologies, because they are all immature at best, and impractical at this time. The US has plenty of oil, but the Govt. has placed it off limits. I have heard that the Arabs think that we are simply saving our own oil & using theirs until it is gone. They, given their culture, do not appreciate the political reasons why we have become so dependant upon foreign oil.

As much as I would prefer so-called green energy, even it has its drawbacks, which adherants usually disregard.

The oil lobby prevented the regulation that would have required an "Acoustic Switch.'
http://www.oil-electric.com/2010/05/tragedy-in-gulf.html
Datafeed.
Political?
See the "Dragon Lake restoration"

An indepth Astroscan....
And there is no excuse for importing more oil. We should by law reduce oil imports by a given amount each year. It should be illeagal to use natural oil for lube in gas engines. That would be a start.
But the oil will poison the Gulf for decades. Every time the wind blows or a storm blows, the oil will come up!

[The Tawashi Bus Hat]

They say it's heading our way, so I'm forced to stay away from my favorite beach. :c

But, heaven forbid, if it does hit us, I've got 10 bottles of Dawn ready to start cleaning! >:3 Have at thee, slime!

Oil is so crude (excuse mah pun). I mean, there are substances that can be used in place of it, but since there is so much green invested in oil, no one wants to invest in something else. This is also why the majority of the world still uses gasoline when used vegetable oil is a fine substitute. (There is a guy down the street who has a vegi-oil converter in his car. Whenever he drives off, it smells like french fries, lawls).

Seriously, I think the gov. needs to figure out how much money it will take to fix this mess, split it by how many companies were involved with maintaining this rig (3? I think?) and sue them for the amount. It is only fair that they are responsible for their own mess, even if we can never reclaim so much lost beauty.

Image from end of April:

[avatargirl]

thanks The Tawashi Bus Hat- your picture shows why we should be developing new technologies for energy

[cybotron]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8679981.stm
This is interesting...
Another rig sinks.

[jeffbert]

The oil lobby prevented the regulation that would have required an "Acoustic Switch.'
http://www.oil-electric.com/2010/05/tragedy-in-gulf.html
Datafeed.
Political?
See the "Dragon Lake restoration"

An indepth Astroscan....
And there is no excuse for importing more oil. We should by law reduce oil imports by a given amount each year. It should be illeagal to use natural oil for lube in gas engines. That would be a start.
But the oil will poison the Gulf for decades. Every time the wind blows or a storm blows, the oil will come up!

That may be, but is is irrelevant to the fact that the govt. allowed wells only in deep water (Assuming that is true, of course, & I have little reason to doubt). I do not know the nature of the breach, but if it is true that every meter of pipe used between the well and the rig, that is, pipe that merely spans the depth of the water, there will be a certain risk involved, they should seek a balance between the desire to keep the resorts happy, no rigs in proximity of the shore, and the need to minimize the length of pipe. I doubt the Chinese will be too upset about any pollution caused by their own oil rigs in the Gulf, but wonder what depth they will be in.

They do not want oil rigs in Alaska, they do not want them in the gulf, they cringe at the idea of nuclear reactors, and they leap upon these impractical 'green' energy 'solutions.' As I understand it, the cost of turning coal into synthetic gasoline is not so great as to make it prohibitive, given the current cost of gas. We have plenty of coal.

With respect to bio-fuels, I understand that they coagulate at fairly high temperatures. That is, you better not let your bio-fuel car be exposed to sub-freezing temperatures, but a gasoline fueled car would have no problem.

About Hydrogen, two words: Hindenburg disaster. About wind mills: tons of concrete and steel, and that is without even connecting them to the grid. Moreover, they occupy massive tracts of land, are very noisy, & only work on windy days. Solar panels, similar problems, but with the sun rather than the wind, though they are quiet. Hybrid cars: where do you get the energy to charge them? They are impractical for any but short commutes.

Electric cars: I have heard from a reputable engineer that they will exhaust their entire charge in hill climbing. They are reliant upon the assumption that much of the time, they will be cruising, and thus, drawing very little from their batteries. I would not want to pay for a replacement battery, either; as I understand that they are VERY costly.

At this time, oil & coal are practical sources of energy; yes, there is pollution, both from exhaust pipes and occasional leaks. If you want free energy, use the blue core or dilythium crystals, oops, those are fictional.

[AprilSeven]

Don't forget Mr. Fusion ala "Back to the Future!"

[clashing claws]

Why don't people take care of the environment.................... its so retarded

[cybotron]

[QUOTE=cybotron;98783]The oil lobby prevented the regulation that would have required an "Acoustic Switch.'
http://www.oil-electric.com/2010/05/tragedy-in-gulf.html
Datafeed.
Political?
See the "Dragon Lake restoration"

An indepth Astroscan....
And there is no excuse for importing more oil. We should by law reduce oil imports by a given amount each year. It should be illeagal to use natural oil for lube in gas engines. That would be a start.
But the oil will poison the Gulf for decades. Every time the wind blows or a storm blows, the oil will come up!

That may be, but is is irrelevant to the fact that the govt. allowed wells only in deep water (Assuming that is true, of course, & I have little reason to doubt). I do not know the nature of the breach, but if it is true that every meter of pipe used between the well and the rig, that is, pipe that merely spans the depth of the water, there will be a certain risk involved, they should seek a balance between the desire to keep the resorts happy, no rigs in proximity of the shore, and the need to minimize the length of pipe. I doubt the Chinese will be too upset about any pollution caused by their own oil rigs in the Gulf, but wonder what depth they will be in.

They do not want oil rigs in Alaska, they do not want them in the gulf, they cringe at the idea of nuclear reactors, and they leap upon these impractical 'green' energy 'solutions.' As I understand it, the cost of turning coal into synthetic gasoline is not so great as to make it prohibitive, given the current cost of gas. We have plenty of coal.

With respect to bio-fuels, I understand that they coagulate at fairly high temperatures. That is, you better not let your bio-fuel car be exposed to sub-freezing temperatures, but a gasoline fueled car would have no problem.

About Hydrogen, two words: Hindenburg disaster. About wind mills: tons of concrete and steel, and that is without even connecting them to the grid. Moreover, they occupy massive tracts of land, are very noisy, & only work on windy days. Solar panels, similar problems, but with the sun rather than the wind, though they are quiet. Hybrid cars: where do you get the energy to charge them? They are impractical for any but short commutes.

Electric cars: I have heard from a reputable engineer that they will exhaust their entire charge in hill climbing. They are reliant upon the assumption that much of the time, they will be cruising, and thus, drawing very little from their batteries. I would not want to pay for a replacement battery, either; as I understand that they are VERY costly.

At this time, oil & coal are practical sources of energy; yes, there is pollution, both from exhaust pipes and occasional leaks. If you want free energy, use the blue core or dilythium crystals, oops, those are fictional. [/QUOTE]
Yes!
But the destruction of the very Ecosystem that voted for reagan deregulation! The very oil tycoons that hollered for deregulation are responsible for the destruction of the land they claimed to Love! They have destroyed american soil!
Ahhhh sweet irony!